Profiled lesbians clash with coaster bus crew over stigmatizing & underhanded comments

Sorry for the late posts but holiday scheduling and DJ duties took up some of my time and a family reunion was also in the mix which had me busy as a bee.

Hope you all enjoyed the season but even in the midst of it crap can happen as this latest entry will reveal.

Well as I live and breathe the holiday season is definitely upon us and I like many Jamaicans were out and about shopping and grabbing last minute household items as the traditional fix-up-the-house fever goes into effect. I was in the Half Way Tree area on the eve of the eve of Xmas and was frustrated with the traffic both vehicular and people so I boarded a coaster bus at the old bus park to downtown to avoid the madness. The usual rude poorly kept thugs both as loader men and conductors were around, bleached skins, tight pants and all the sometimes obnoxious treatment of would be female passengers with inappropriate approaches and such including touching, hope they remember or realise a sexual harassment bill will soon pass into law.

I witnessed this one myself as four ladies approached the shouting loader man encouraging passengers then came the first of many off hand comments which was to the effect “downtown lesbian crew....?” the facial reaction was clear enough especially from a cross looking sister but they eventually ignored the slight and took their seats as I observed keenly wondering if this was going to blow up into something else. The women were obviously being profiled by not only the rude loader man and also the conductor (kinda hard to tell who is whom as between the noise and distraction of getting passengers roles get cloudy) with the very audible comments about one lady of the four who has some masculine features and what appeared to be bleached skin.

As we made our way down Half Way Tree road by the nursing school it was clear drama was going to go down as the music on board was turned up as one of the girls was making a call where she asked for a reprieve to finish it and then the refusal by the crew to oblige until she managed to shout over the volume to make her point. This did not sit well with the so called self described bad man who ‘nuh tek talk from sodomite’ among other tersely worded comments which I will not quote but imagine the colourful deluge. The women soon had supportive company from her colleagues who gave the conductor and indeed the driver a tongue lashing which included defense of their perceived sexuality which came to dominate the exchange to which the impacted women proudly suggested they will take away all the girls from them as men as they are not worthy of them and are poorly kept. The argument went on for good twenty or so minutes as intermittent traffic and bad driving forming a new lane where there was none which had other passengers objected to the indiscipline and sway of the bus thought to be dangerous. However as we say in Jamaica colloquially ‘de gal dem block it’ (the girls blocked it) ‘Blocking it’ is term we use to suggest a victory from some sort of homo-negative event implying bravery and non acceptance of same.

“................Who woulda want you (badwud badwud), yuh work pon bus dutty conductor boi...........”

This and other such comments did not sit kindly with the crew and now other males on the bus and the pandemonium ensued all the way from Cross Roads to downtown with outbursts along the way as the ladies were determined to hold their ground as they are paying for the service not begging a ride on the bus. Then came the usual veiled threats to not only them but homosexuals in general and then the music was turned up at high volume. I tried to signal the ladies to cool it as it made no sense as we approached King Street via the York Park Fire station and as the bus turned that deep bend by Kingston Senior school the usual fare collection procedure happened. That was when the clash took another turn as the money was grabbed by the conductor in supposed defiance of the lady’s resolve in standing their ground; one man said he knew where one of the girls hailed from and that she acts like a man while he also expressed his supposed surprise on how bold homosexuals overall have become.

Upon arrival at the Kingston Parish Church in parade a spot often used as a quasi terminus for robot buses things really got ugly as the vocals went up and the standoff got really tense. I tried to intervene to the ladies to just leave the scene although I do not know them personally as it made no sense after coming so far to only end it in possible physical harm. But the ladies were determined not to be outdone by the slights and insults by the bus crew and others. The aforementioned male passenger who had made remarks was still adamant that he knew one of the ladies and he suggest some sort of threat or exposure of the exchange to her area of origin did not stop the ladies from holding their ground.

Things simmered eventually as other passengers suggested they end it as they disembarked the bus as the driver revved the engine to hasten person’s exit; the ladies eventually went off but with a hot parting shot said among other things suggesting strongly they were not impressed or moved by the projected strength or bravado:

“........ yuh tink se we fraid a unu ............ unu nuh frighten we..........”

In other words they were not intimidated or jolted by the event.

Nuff said.

Peace & tolerance

H

also see previous coaster bus challenges:

Brawl on Coaster Bus from Portmore ... man accused of riding another's ass while in transit

Gay joke goes wrong ... bus personnel escapes thrashing 2011

Alleged Gay advance upsets 'loader man' in Half Way Tree 2014

Why do some lesbians or bi women like gay male porn?

Of course not all SGL women do but this age old question is still left to be answered definitively for me as I have had this post sitting in draft for years literally and what appears to be a similar quandary for several others including a younger generation the question exists, I was stroke how it was openly discussed in a Facebook group recently when gay male porn was raised as a subject. Years ago I remember at the local level both at GLABCOM (gay lesbian, bisexual community) meetings at one NGO where I used to chair them occasionally and sat on its steering committee it was raised by the females in attendance that preferred to socialise with gay men than their lesbian or bisexual colleagues. WomenforWomen’s Friday night lymes and after discussions raised the matter on a few occasions and in one of them I was remember chairing a session which became heated as those for in admiration of gay male porn had to defend themselves from those against with the core of their revolt being the perceived untidiness of the act when anal penetration is the main action.

Oral sex between men ended up becoming the broker for a truce of sorts that faithful evening and a subsequent impromptu AIDS 101 to include anal health (fleet & such) and hygiene how tos as practiced by us as gay/bi men. For some reason that old HIV is a gay disease mantra found its way into the discussion as if to conclude it is automatic with anal sex especially without a condom. Those courses helped to sedate the abhorrence by some of the women especially the more butch identified ones and some studs. The present social media thread seems to have the same variables as the old perceptions arose as talking points in the commentary which grew into an all out debate where the untidiness perception was clearly expressed as persons claimed there would be faecal matter in the mix unbeknownst or unaware of the availability of anal health products so readily on the market these days and despite buggery being illegal. The typical abhorrence laden colloquial question ‘....how man fi a walla in shit pit...?’ (How are men to have untidy faecal exposing anal sex?) anti gay sentiments came up as a reason for opposing the act between men which was interesting to watch as to me it borders on a kind of internalized homophobia within the LGBT populations.

A brief intervention by an obviously more informed woman in the group did help to sedate the outrage or abhorrence by the opposers to the sex of it but ironically some of the same opposers said the site of a man dominating another man looks somewhat interesting; the word ‘hot’ kept creeping into the mix and then I remembered similar comments being made at the aforementioned meetings involving SGL women. I wonder if the attraction is driven by the perceived strength factor in the dominance of the ‘top’ or ‘sub’

The hypermasculine dynamic versus the more docile or sub/passive partner seems to be an almost aphrodisiac for some or is it just because it is sex involving same sex partners and the women are also same sex attracted there is a comparison or connection to the act as a way of confirmation of who one is in terms of sexual orientation? It is hard to measure in terms of SGL sub groups who prefers gay male porn more, butch identified women or studs and that old feud between the two that lingers even in the newer generations. I will declare further interest in this topic as I have had an experimental group sex of sorts several years ago when I was much more adventurous with four males including myself and two women one butch the other a stud and both who use strap-ons. The turn on for the butch woman who did not identify as bisexual was that she gets a kick out of seeing her sub partner in immense pleasure as evidenced for her in audible sounds as she drives home usually in a foot on shoulder position which imposes her dominance psychologically; a similar sentiment expressed by transmen who use strap ons pre-operatively; the aphrodisiac is the domination component of the act which in both groups leads to intense and sometimes multiple orgasms. The group action I was in the stud woman had a distinct advantage as she wore a unique penile strapper device with a specially made ending at the testicular base that vibrates used with batteries that would stimulate her clitoris in the process thus making the act even more pleasurable for her while the action of the squatting action of her sub partner as she prefers it also aids in arriving at multiple orgasms.

The availability of gay male porn online especially African American and indeed Jamaican porn from Jamdownproductions in particular who specialises in hyper-masculine models/actors who play both dominant and sub roles did not go unnoticed as many said the watch and are amazed at the act; some said they would try to stomach watching scenes with one person remarking that the sex was ‘clean’ some persons thought that there had to be a distinct emphasis on roles and the corresponding look of the participants; in other words the ‘top’ should be all man and hypermasculine projecting strength versus the sub or passive partner who is less so or effeminate even in sexual sounds to emphasize submission. Upon seeing two of the same archetypes switching roles seems fascinating for some as it blurs the lines or stereotypes of gay male sex. This reminds me of the long held strong rejection of two butches or two studs involved in sex; that too was raised in years passed at the aforementioned meetings and in most instances had to be quickly differed so as to diffuse heated debates with persons almost coming to blows. The hot topics Fridays at the now defunct Oasis Couture Elements lymes had one such episode when the evening’s subject was bisexuality and short of calling the police the thing descended into a shouting match with hardened positions.

Could it be that the very site of sexual activity does something to us overall? After all the experts tell us that such experiences in real time are burnt more permanently to the brain than possibly anything else; this could be the driver for the attraction and at the same time rejection tacitly of gay male porn by SGL women. Rejection is an aphrodisiac I suppose. After all the porn industry has thrived on lesbian typed porn for decades and even went as far as the spike in so called ‘she male’ porn as well during the eighties when the transition was made from the dominant Caucasian gay porn on the global market to the growing and now popular Black, Latino or Blatino gay porn now as most of the ‘she-male’ actors were.

None of the numerous women in the social media thread openly suggested they would try the aforementioned groupie I was involved in; I guess that would be a stretch for some and the anti male sentiments expressed sexually speaking by some SGL women I guess would also influence that although the interest would be a dominant role by her instead of the other way around. Bearing in mind that most of the members of the group where this thread was located are Jamaicans.

Sexuality is a marvellous thing.

Peace & tolerance

H

also see:

Science Says Women Prefer Gay Guy Porn (And Lesbian Porn, Duh) to All Other Types

Raw Thugs series ' 'Pimp' passed away

Cybersex and relationships 2010

Bad Man Nuh F*** Batty (Masculine Men Don't F*** Ass) (The Fear of The Feminine in JA) 16.04.15 

Lesbian arrested for defending herself!

Another same gender loving sister one of many is displaced as the numbers continue to climb once again and reports keep a coming in rapid succession. She asked whether a shelter or half way house of sorts for lesbians existed to which she was told no but that the women’s crisis centre can help if only for a short period. The end of the year tends to have an usual climb in numbers these types of cases as if to suggest that aggressors do not want to continue the relationships into the new year so edicts are issued or ultimatums are enforced sending targeted persons to scamper or search or reach out for help.

Can you imagine? ..... “picture it” as the character Sophia in that nineties comedy she would say in Golden Girls, a woman in her twenties who lives in western Jamaica with relatives and present as a stud aesthetically meaning she wears some unisexual or sometimes male attire such as shirts, shoes and jeans and she is repeatedly told she needs to wear female attire and look girly/feminine as it is offensive. Worse yet she smokes weed; the anathema for some relatives as she is described as a ‘flex like a man’ or buying into the hyper-masculine ideal and Jamaican gangsterism ideal.

She is constantly harassed in particular by a male cousin verbally at first but then things start to get far more physical than usual with more threats and finger pointing in her face etc. The Montegonian had to endure this mounting pressure for some time until the moment when one cracks comes as it did with her; one such tersely worded exchange presented itself over a month ago and she decided to have none of it, especially owing to the fact she is small in stature and deemed defenceless if and when she is man handled or at least that what her male cousin aggressor thought.

An argument ensued which led to a tussle between the two where she warned him to desist but he persisted in a drive to impose his will on her to change both her mode of dress, actions and lack of male friends or so he thought. A struggle developed and after several shoves, harsh words and a temporary standoff a knife was brought into the picture wherein upon the male cousin’s break in his retreat the woman defended herself with the device that she uses to shred her weed or marijuana stash after purchase. The cousin was stabbed and she then fled from the scene and headed straight to the police station to make the report; however much to her dismay she was instead taken into custody and served a week in a jail cell for simply defending herself. The cousin suffered a stab wound but not fatally and since then things have only gotten worse in terms of the relationship with not only him but other family members and strangers who got wind of the incident. Since then she has been effectively bouncing from pillow to post. The cops said she was wrong to have stabbed the man but instead made a report of the earlier challenges and even suggestions by one officer of her taking a reparative course from her ‘lifestyle’

Charges have not been filed by the cousin although reports suggest he is being encouraged to pursue same instead he is reported to be making threats and what he intends to do when he sees her; strong suggestion of violence presents itself here and that this is by no means over. The cops took the report and she was advised to follow it up. She also made a report to APJ from which flows this entry on the matter. This business of displacements and no real answer to same is disturbing me again as expressed in previous entries and we are told by agencies that have couch surfing avenues which actually turn out to be few and far in between and for young MSM/transgender mostly and not lesbians. Thankfully some forward thinking women have been opening up their doors as evidenced in a previous post on an arson attack earlier this year and the various assistance in sheltering at the community level. Other SGL groups seem more interested in image building on social media more than actually assisting persons in cases such as this even with clearly more resources than other outfits they instead refer to the referral route when such cases come by their radar.

The woman has tried to avoid being seen in the area although she is trying to relocate both her person and belongings and avoid taking phone calls from some family members as the tone of the conversation she is well aware of. She has also been talking to a counselor I have also learned. Hope remains while company is true and thankfully this one did not escalate into something else.

Peace & tolerance

H