Christians should apologise to gay people — Pope Francis

I can only imagine the antigay religious fanatics such as Dr Wayne West, Shirley Richards and JCHS with Jamaica CAUSE, must be squirming in their skins when they saw this one; an appropriate start to reconciliation indeed and also the clerical abuse black eye that has smudged the Catholic church's image over hundreds of years.

a previous quote from the Pontiff 

ROME, Italy (AFP) — Pope Francis said Sunday that Christians and the Roman Catholic Church should apologise to gay people and seek their forgiveness for the way they have been treated.

Speaking to reporters as he flew back to Rome from Armenia, the pope was asked if he agreed with comments by German Cardinal Reinhard Marx that the Church needed to say sorry for the way it has treated the gay community.

"We Christians have to apologise for so many things, not just for this (treatment of gay people), but we must ask for forgiveness. Not just apologise — forgiveness," he said.

"The questions is: if a person who has that condition, who has good will, and who looks for God, who are we to judge?" the pope added, repeating his famous "Who am I to judge?" remark about homosexuality made early in his papacy.

That comment was one of the first indications that the Vatican under Pope Francis' leadership would take a more conciliatory approach to the gay community, but also prompted criticism from the Church's more conservative members. This is the healing that is so needed in these times to gain true tolerance as I think Jesus would approve and indeed extend to all.

Francis expanded his apology to also include other people who have faced discrimination.

"I think that the Church not only should apologise... to a gay person whom it offended but it must also apologise to the poor as well, to the women who have been exploited, to children who have been forced to work."

The comments come just two weeks after the Orlando massacre at a gay nightclub in which 49 people were killed.

At the time the Holy See condemned the attack as a "homicidal folly and senseless hatred".

The CNN carried the story as this in part:

Groundbreaking Moment

"I believe that the church not only should apologize to the person who is gay whom it has offended," he added, "but has to apologize to the poor, to exploited women, to children exploited for labor; it has to ask forgiveness for having blessed many weapons."

The Rev. James Martin, a Jesuit priest and editor at large of America magazine, called the Pope's apology to gays and lesbians "a groundbreaking moment."

"While St. John Paul II apologized to several groups in 2000 -- the Jewish people, indigenous peoples, immigrants and women, among them -- no pope has ever come close to apologizing to the LGBT community. And the Pope is correct of course. First, because forgiveness is an essential part of the Christian life. And second, because no group feels more marginalized in the church today than LGBT people."

The Pope's comments came in response to a question about a German Cardinal who said the Catholic Church should apologize for being "very negative" about gays. The Pope was also asked whether Christians bear some blame for hatred toward the LGBT community, as horrifically demonstrated in the Orlando massacre at a gay night club that killed 49 people on June 12.

'Immense Blessing'

Francis first uttered that rhetorical question -- Who am I to judge gay people? -- in 2013, also during a news conference on the papal plane. His comments were hailed as a breakthrough for a church that has historically condemned homosexuality, often in harsh terms. Francis has not changed church doctrine that calls homosexual acts sinful, but he has shown a more merciful approach to people on the margins, including gays and lesbians.

Francis DeBernardo, executive director of New Ways Ministry, a Catholic gay rights group, called the Pope's remarks "an immense blessing of healing."

"No pope has said more welcoming words to LGBT people than when Pope Francis today offered his recommendation that the Church -- indeed all Christians -- should apologize for the harm religious traditions have caused to LGBT people. The pope's statement was simple, yet powerful, and it fell from his lips so easily."

As is often the case, the Pope's press conference encompassed a number of controversial questions. Here are the Pope's answers about Brexit, former Pope Benedict XVI and why he used the word "genocide" to describe the murder of more than 1 million Armenians in the early 20th century.

Let us see if this pivotal moment in the Catholic church's history will resonate deeply especially here in Jamaica.

Peace & tolerance indeed

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'Girl-on-girl dancing out of hand' .......... what!

I would have expected this some ten years or so ago in a more backward time but since the introduction of carnival and such girl and girl dancing was slowly accepted. But to see such opposition in 2016 is ridiculous as carried in the Star news recently. In a previous post in 2008 I had brought some attention to the paranoia on so called lesbian dancing: Lesbians Take Over? and this Same-sex dancing ... what's up with that? (Gleaner Article) 2009 from Gay Jamaica Watch and Gays convert popular parties they say .......... oh boi

Some entertainers are crying shame on a seemingly growing trend on the party scene, that of girls wining and gyrating on each other.

Recording artiste Razor-B, known for his raunchy dance songs geared at the female audience, said girl-on-girl dancing is tacky.

"Men should take responsibility for it because the ladies want to dance, but di man dem look like dem (and) 'fraid fi dance with them. I will go to a party with like 10 girls, but I can't dance with all of them. I'm just one Razor-B," he said.

Foota Hype, a popular selector, said on Instagram last week that it appears some women no longer feel comfortable to dance with men.

"This outa hand fi real, enuh. The nation lost star. It's like wrong a become right. Every gyal a tun lesbian. Some a dem not even realise it because them think it's the new way to have fun," Foota Hype proclaimed.


freedom of choice

However, other entertainers are not as vexed about the issue, and believe people have the freedom to party as they please.

Recording artiste Raine Seville says it is not an activity she would partake in, but she believes in freedom of choice.

"It's not necessarily something I'm supportive of, but everyone is entitled to live their life and party as they choose. There are some people who do it for the fun of it. They're just living in the moment and they're partying and having fun," she said.

Though seemingly tolerant of females dancing together, Raine Seville admitted it would be uncomfortable watching males dance together in a similar fashion.

"It would definitely be an uncomfortable thing to see. It might be biased to say that, but it's honest," she said.

Unlike Raine Seville, recording artiste Bad Gyal CeCile told THE STAR that she engages in girl-on-girl dancing with her female friends.

"Because something "can" be sexual doesn't mean it is," CeCile said.

"I myself learnt this was normal years ago when I was performing at a 16-year-old birthday party in one of the islands. While onstage, the birthday girl and her friends came on stage to dance with me, and I walked off feeling offended," she revealed.

"I was actually reprimanded by her parents for disrespecting the child on stage at her party. It was explained to me that to them it was normal," CeCile added.