At one point US rapper Little Wayne (photoed above) was referenced as an influence to the low wearing or hugging jeggings craze now taking the nation by storm and again co-host Rodney Campbell took issue that he should not be used to define a "thug" or manliness while almost implying that he (LW) or other thug stars was on the downlow, he continued that real thugs do not or are not supposed to dress so metro. The issue of thugs on the DL was also touched on briefly with no serious sensible examination to report, Jamaican men blurring the lines of roles and sexuality came up for some scrutiny when a more enlightened brother made a point that piercings were of African origin and that we should not shy away from it in a sense but that soon died as it came as again good ole Rodney brought the old stereotype into play that men who pierce their right ear were gay and those who now pierced both were supposedly not or men who pierce their chin or lower lip were trying to be too girly hence they are gay. The moving target of pin pointing gays by simple aesthetics was a point the participants could not agree on. New colloquial expressions such as "dash weh shirt, a blouse a dweet" (throw away the shirts its blouses that are doing it) was brought up as well which the more enlightened brother before rebutted that men are exploring their feminine sides so to speak and that styles change wherein we may see a return of more "big clothes" in the future. The cost factor of the clothes also was a sore point as the persons pondered whether the men were being supported by other men secretly suggesting downlow homo thug culture again but publicly having females as handbags or for show to conceal their actions.
Other points and questions in the sometime irritating discourse were:
- Women are bisexual like oral sex from women who wear tongue rings, why can't men do it too?
- Men are getting into oral sex more so than now
- Why bore ones tongue if oral sex is so popular, why not a tongue alone?
- Most persons like piercings for various reasons including the euphoria of the act
- Why are mostly men who complain about piercings done by other men?
- Rodney Campbell "Oman a wicked but man a wear lilac"
- One female had a problem with men having their eyebrows arched or the surprised permanently look
- We judge persons sexuality just by aesthetics, whether someone is gay or not
- Persons are pushing the envelope more in Jamaica and doing so in the open
- A male participant said he used to dance in pink leotards while at arts school and he is not gay
- Text messages claimed "FIRE" (typical anti gay term) for the so called metrosexual look
- Do Jamaican women have the so called "gay friend" as a bestie as well that obtains elsewhere?
- Comparisons to Texan cowboys in tight jeans was used but they are masculine by virtue of the masculine items such as boots and the trademark cowboy hats.
- The dancer commented he fears being branded as he does not wear the tight clothes etc as others on social networks
- When did the trends change for men to wear very close jeans or capris with clothes tucked in?
- Men are now wearing man-liners and or concealers with makeup to hide blemishes alongside french manicure nails etc
- The influence of the internet was used to suggest the rapid changes in tastes and styles
- The difference between evolution versus mutation was asked but not responded to by the hosts fully
- Looking gay versus being gay was very briefly looked at with no proper follow up
- Everybody no matter who you are has someones fit for them
- We must allow people to choose freely without judging them (this came at the extreme end of the talks)
- The tongue pierced man said the other stereotypical actions such as tight pants, eyebrow arching and bleaching are GAY and he wouldn't go there. Co-host Rodney found that profound, he cynically sang Beres Hammond's "One Step Ahead" suggesting to me that the moving target for stereotypical looks.
- The fashion competitions in the dancehall are rigid that women have to accept the new look of their male partners without protest as they may become the victim of a violent reaction
- One female participant asked "why are we acting as if there is a shortage of hardcore men or something?" she suggested persons should find what they like
- Rodney complained there are no lines of demarcation with effeminacy and masculinity
- A texter texted in "Gaza we used to seh" (suggesting a switch from Vybz Kartel empire's name
- Another one said "Steve must be Steve and Eve must be Eve"
- Persons complained about the hair extensions and coloured mohawks worn by men
- Gender roles should be strictly observed so pink for females dark colours for men
- It's difficult to identify men from women in some instances
All in all the phobia is real as it comes when these same persons travel to other more liberal parts of the world and do not complain so why complain here? We have a long way to go it seems but clearly the individualism that is sweeping the land may very help the soft but extremely fragile tolerance that we now are experiencing nationally but how long will it last and will the relapse implode on the LGBT community?
Lots to consider.
Peace and tolerance